Traci is back on the podcast! And this time, she brought her husband, Andy, along for the conversation. It has been over three years since Traci laid some wisdom on us in Ep61 when she lamented that when Andy got sober, it turned out that he had opinions. Five years into Andy’s sobriety, they both continue to grow and recover, and Traci is here to tell us all to be careful what we wish for. This is a powerful story of the self-discovery that often hides behind relationship recovery. And to clarify the confusion surrounding Sheri’s and Matt’s spontaneous duet, it was Neil singing with Barbara, and Sheri was right as usual: it is bring, not buy.